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Poster: clashcity Date: Apr 23, 2009 8:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

Indeed, and if you, as either a fringe member of this so-called "scene" or just some random outsider, did dump trash in my driveway and left it there it would not be a negative mark on everyone else who is contentious and responsible member of said "scene", but it would indicate that there are a minority of idiots who think exactly what you said - they paid a lot so they should be able to do what they want.

It is wrong, but you can't blame everyone for the behavior of a few. The same few who would do these things even if you tried to guide them in right direction.

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Poster: user unknown Date: Apr 23, 2009 8:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

"but you can't blame everyone for the behavior of a few."

Would that it were only true. Too often, those guilty of no transgression suffer for the actions of a few. I think the leaga term is "guilt by association" and though it is grossly unfair, it is a fact of life.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Apr 23, 2009 8:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

You got it, dude. I'm too young to have seen the lot scene go bad and I've been to one Dead show in '04 and Phil in '06...

Either way, I can understand that if someone has a bad experience with 3 hairy individuals wearing GD tie-dyes then I might be a little weary next time I come across any other individuals that are similarly uniformed ;)

Never understood trashing your surroundings for someone else to clean it up. Seems to be a common trend amongst Americans... everywhere you go there is trash on the sides of the roads. Entitlement, ignorance, whatever it is, it stinks.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 23, 2009 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

I always throw my beers cans out the window - I thought that was the whole premise behind trickle down economics. I buy the 12-pack at the convenience store (which makes money) and then my cans are picked up by someone for recycling money. What isn't All-American about that?

I'm listening to last night's show - I'm not feeling the magic.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Apr 23, 2009 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

My friend recently got a job as a night-shift janitor at a prep school here in Quebec. His first clean up was a condom drowned in a pool of coffee. I also walk through this prep school every day on the way to class and theres always cans, bottles, styrofoam take out containers, etc. all over the lawns. Sometimes I get so disgusted I start picking this shit up while loudly lamenting how disgusting the whole scene is :)

I hope the younguns get embarassed when they see me picking up their garbage but they probably just think I am some crazy hippie.

As far as I can tell, mindlessly leaving a trail of trash behind you wherever you is an All-Canadian past-time as well.

As for the show, listening right now and I'm not quite sure what Bob is up to at the end of Candyman... he's barking something incoherent...

This post was modified by deadpolitics on 2009-04-23 17:51:07

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

I too will pick up stuff at the beach and in parks. It especially infuriates me when people do it in such nice settings where you can see trash cans within sight. I'm also the guy that will say "hey, you dropped this" and give someone back their dropped cup, wrapper, etc.

Yep, I'm not only a jerk on the forum, but in real life as well.

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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

"Hey buddy! That MBZ S Class didn't come w/ an ashtray?!?!"


Feel free to use this line on any jerk who feels that the world is his ashtray.

BTW, this thread reminds me of Alice's Restaurant.

This post was modified by high flow on 2009-04-23 18:25:10

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Apr 23, 2009 1:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

FYI, when I met Sara Lee (Arlo's daughter), I asked her if she was tired of pickles. (I also asked her to admit that she couldn't listen to a Pete Seeger tune all the way through). She said dad's chrismtas tree is full of pickle ornaments given to him by folks over the years....

I just wanna ride...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

Ed Abbey always said you should just throw your trash out the kitchen window...

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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 23, 2009 11:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

Ed Abbey gave the best-ever description of a great Dark Star, without even trying.

Edward Abbey's Benediction

"Benedicto: May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. May your rivers flow without end, meandering through pastoral valleys tinkling with bells, past temples and castles and poets' towers into a dark primeval forest where tigers belch and monkeys howl, through miasmal and mysterious swamps and down into a desert of red rock, blue mesas, domes and pinnacles and grottos of endless stone, and down again into a deep vast ancient unknown chasm where bars of sunlight blaze on profiled cliffs, where deer walk across the white sand beaches, where storms come and go as lightning clangs upon the high crags, where something strange and more beautiful and more full of wonder than your deepest dreams waits for you ­beyond the next turning of the canyon walls.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 23, 2009 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

That's a good one...used to see him out here regularly in the 70s giving talks...always had a tall Coors in a brown bag at the podium and his lectures were punctuated by the "creek--PUSHSSIT--pop!" every now and again...

Loved him.

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Poster: high flow Date: Apr 23, 2009 12:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: venting(the dead related)

You're even cooler than I thought.